tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post750876219191296015..comments2007-09-29T18:30:26.496-07:00Bo Greenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16450947780950412676noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-55875348572899024382007-09-29T18:30:00.000-07:002007-09-29T18:30:00.000-07:00Care to trade links with my humor blog? My site is http://jaysmoney.blogspot.com <BR/><BR/>If would like to trade, post my link, then comment or email me and I will post yours on my site as a permanent link. Send what you want to your link to be called and your link please.<BR/>I would appreciate the linkage, Thanks!Jay Camhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04479640289038431760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-35778103803414709042007-09-27T17:24:00.000-07:002007-09-27T17:24:00.000-07:00Welcome back , Baron von Green .Boris and Natasha (and Snoopy)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-59773290705892578002007-09-24T21:26:00.000-07:002007-09-24T21:26:00.000-07:00Police are really buggered either way I think. I mean, if they taser them, then they are using excessive force. If they wrestle with them, then perhaps an officer gets hurt, or if the guy gets hurt, he sues for damages. <BR/><BR/>There's an article in the National Post talking about this tasering incident by the way.SouthernOntarioanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14556765364730568391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-79109589383473836002007-09-21T16:40:00.000-07:002007-09-21T16:40:00.000-07:00<I>if the police say, broke his arm during a struggle, that he would sue the police for excessive force.</I><BR/><BR/>That's interesting - I can see what you mean, yes. Surely six cops can handle one guy without injuring anyone, but I *do* take your point, and he is the kind of person who would do that, I imagine.Jason Bo Greenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16450947780950412676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-29327346334391141552007-09-21T04:00:00.000-07:002007-09-21T04:00:00.000-07:00Riiiiight, because Canadian police never, EVER exceed the bounds of reasonable force.<BR/><BR/>*ahem* <BR/><BR/>Yes you might be able to take him on JBG, but also remember that if the police say, broke his arm during a struggle, that he would sue the police for excessive force. That might have factored into their reasoning. <BR/><BR/>As for John Kerry, I'm not sure what you would expect him to do/say?SouthernOntarioanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14556765364730568391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-59400946237322577702007-09-20T12:43:00.000-07:002007-09-20T12:43:00.000-07:00I don't know any Americans with that mentality. And I'm sure glad I don't know those cops.Jason Bo Greenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16450947780950412676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-18478049916498069782007-09-20T06:27:00.000-07:002007-09-20T06:27:00.000-07:00It just highlights the American mentality which is to shoot first, try democracy later (if ever).Saskboyhttp://www.abandonedstuff.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-83048496990547914492007-09-20T05:34:00.000-07:002007-09-20T05:34:00.000-07:00Oh, I agree - he was hogging and budding in line, so cutting his mic and escorting him off, it's no big deal to me.<BR/><BR/>*I* could beat that guy up - when you've got 5 or 7 cops on him, two of which are way bigger than me (I'm 6'1 and 170), there's no need for billy clubs or pepper spray or anything else.<BR/><BR/>Throw him out ranting and raving, eject him - fine. That's not infringing on his free speech. But <I>tasering</I> him? You can be a lunatic without being piled on, nevermind physically hurting someone.<BR/><BR/>I'm just shocked over the whole thing. That's something that Putin would have goons do to Kasparov supporters.Jason Bo Greenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16450947780950412676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30987434.post-90557955287442383972007-09-20T03:17:00.000-07:002007-09-20T03:17:00.000-07:00Okay, I'm really torn on this one. First of all, campus security may have decided that he was a disruption and infringing on the rights of others to listen to John Kerry and ask questions of him. Whereas this guy seems to have been trying to monopolize the microphone. It happens, you get some crazies who keep going on and on and on ... and people who want to ask their own questions don't get to because of one jerk.<BR/><BR/>So their decision to cut the mic and escort him off is defensible, although one might argue there was a better course available. As they were escorting him away he physically attacked them. So escalation is allowed, which you saw.<BR/><BR/>However, tasering him after all that is not defensible. It seems from the video that the situation was more or less under control and so there was no need to use the taser.<BR/><BR/>Tasering unarmed citizens occurs often and for good reasons. Even people who are 'unarmed' can pose serious threats to officers. The alternative is to use billy clubs or pepper spray to force the person into submission. But billy clubs can kill and pepper spray doesn't always work. <BR/><BR/>Think of it this way though, if a citizen was armed, the police would have a gun pointed at them, not a taser.SouthernOntarioanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14556765364730568391noreply@blogger.com